democrats today theying that paul ryan's budget will do everything but bring a swarm of locust. anyway, bear in mind, it doesn't cut spending. it is just cutting the growth in spending, mercedes, we have david, on blame getting worse. mercedes. you know, this is always a political game, both sides trying to play to their advantage, but this makes getting this budget, some control, next to impossible? >> it does, you know, i want to add, salon.com had on web site ryan's plans kills thousands, they are taking to a step further, this is going to be difficult. that is why have you senator murray's plan way on the other side, there has to come a point where they bridge the differences, but i don't know if that is possible. if we don't sort of take care of the big elephant in the room, i don't see how we'll cut the spend, slow federal government growth, and really start hoping to have greater investment in our country as well as higher employment. neil: i think that means, that incumbent on democrats and republicans to go after their sacred cows. but when we present the extremes, you,